Occupation: Motion Picture & Television
Production
NumberofCruises: 5
CruiseLine: Holland America
Ship: Zaandam
SailingDate: September21st,
2002
Itinerary: Alaska
We just returned from a 7 day Alaska
cruise, roundtrip from Vancouver. Weexperienced the
good, the bad and the ugly or funky as the case was on theZaandam.
Our previous 2 cruises were with Royal Caribbean, the last one in Spring1999 transiting the Panama Canal. Nice relaxing 11 day trip in a verandamini suite on the then nearly new, “Vision of the Seas”.
The food was not very well prepared & we felt that the food handling bywaiters & assistants was not as sanitary and safe as it could & should
be.
The get up and boogie atmosphere coupled with constant loudspeakerannouncements and drink sales pushes everywhere turned us off of RCI.
We have been visiting the cruise boards daily for the past few monthsreading the newest reviews, looking for a bit more elegant cruise line
withbetter food (in regard to taste, presentation and
proper sanitary handling)than RCI without paying
nosebleed Seabourn prices. We chose HollandAmerican.
I had been a passenger on the Rotterdam NY to Europe when I was inthe Air Force and I had memories of 2 nice Atlantic crossings with HAL.
PRE-CRUISE DAYS IN VANCOUVER:
We live in Santa Monica, CA but we have a seasonal apartment in NorthVancouver with a view of the cruise ships going in and out of the harborunder Lion’s gate bridge and docking at Canada Place, whetted our
appetitefor cruising again.
We spent some pre cruise days in beautiful, friendly, reasonably pricedVancouver. It’s a great way to start a vacation.
Translink, the public transit entity, sells a shirt pocket sized GreaterVancouver Transportation Map (2002 edition) for $2.50 CDN which also
servesas a convenient city map. If you like to walk
or bicycle, circling StanleyPark is a great workout
with a fantastic view.
We buy daily transit passes and ride easily around town on any bus, skytrainor seabus we wished for one daily fee. Take a skytrain to get a nice viewride through the city. Take a mini-cruise, 12 minutes long on the seabusfrom the Seabus and Skytrain terminal building next to Canada Place andwander through the Lonsdale Quay Marketplace, the North Vancouver
terminusof the seabus.
Across the street and 100 yards east of the Quay is a superb ItalianRestaurant, Quattro di Gusto. Fantastic gourmet lunch with reasonableprices. Great food inside the Quay Market too.
We also went to Hon’s Wun-tun House, a huge, delicious Hong Kong styleChinese restaurant on Robson St. (the ‘Via Veneto’ of Vancouver) withinwalking distance to Stanley Park.
If you are coming in from Vancouver International Airport they have greatNew York style deli sandwiches (fantastic potato salad too) at Kaplans
StarDeli on Oak St near the corner of 41 St. on the
way into the downtown area.
A few doors east of Hon’s on Robson(corner of Jervis) is Cows, an oldfashioned ice cream parlor where you can practice acquiring pre cruisecalories. There are many bargains in Vancouver. Leave room in your
luggage.
EMBARKATION:
We arrived at Canada Place by around 1 PM, received our boarding numbers andfinally got on the ship @ 3:30 PM. We ate a late breakfast so we wouldn’tget too hungry but by 3:30 we were definitely hungry. We dumped our carry
onluggage in our Deck 7 veranda mini-suite and raced
for the Lido Buffet ondeck 8. We arrived about 3:45
and were informed that the buffet was closing.There
would be bar snacks in the Crow’s nest and other bars at 6PM. 24 hourroom service was not up and running at this moment.
We were second seating dining so we had to eat something soon. Next time Iwill bring protein bars or snack food in my carry on luggage.
We sailed out of majestic Vancouver harbor under Lion’s Gate Bridge with theparty music playing and our stomachs growling; we were not in the mood
forany “frozen thingies”.
We recognize how difficult embarkation/debarkation days are for the crew(and the newly boarded passengers) but at these prices maybe they couldpre-make simple sandwiches and have them available or keep a small part
ofthe buffet or grill open. We discovered that on
most days the Grill in thepool area is open when the
Lido isn’t. That was not the case on embarkationday.
PUBLIC AREAS:
The Zaandam is an elegant looking, well laid out vessel. More like a shipthan a floating resort supership. The elevators are plentiful and there
isnot much waiting like on the bigger ships. Most
decks have 3 banks of 4elevators.
The Erasmus Library on Deck 5 is beautiful but they don’t enforce thelibrary silence rule. People just wander in and start loud conversations.
Itis the only quiet room on a ship full of great
places to relax and talk. Alot of our fellow
passengers were not concious of what is or isn’t going onaround them. The Zaandam singers and dancers alternate as librarians.
Shameon HAL for closing the library so early every
night. There is an internetcenter next door. They
charge 75 cents a minute but they have a 250 minutes
for $100. deal available.You can’t word process on
these computers only surfthe net.
Various attractive public rooms and lounges surround the Atrium on 5 and the
Hotel Desk is on 4.
CABIN:
Our long but narrow mini suite was the farthest aft cabin on deck 7 (theNavigation Deck). The veranda was nice and had more room because it was
thelast one aft. We could see over the side of the
ship as well as the ship’swake. We loved our veranda.
We don’t ever want to cruise again without averanda.
The bathroom was good sized with a large mirrored storage cabinet thateasily held all of our stuff and the cabin storage was excellent. There
waseven room to put our luggage in the closets.
Holland American gets a goldstar for the bath and the
closets. The lighting was good and the sittingarea
has a small couch and a curtain dividing it from the sleeping area soone can read while another sleeps.
CLEANLINESS:
I decided to use the bathroom and when I lifted the lid for the first timethere was a large load of poop. A portent of things to come? Not anauspicious beginning!
My wife enjoys giving herself beauty treatments in the privacy of herstateroom during cruises. However on this cruise she was unable to
becausethe state of cleanliness of the room grossed
her out. For example; the fulllength mirror inside
the closet door seemed to be smeared here and there
with something like vaseline. She could not bring
herself to do floor exercises in our mini-suite becauseas she said looking at the stained carpeting “Did they housebreak a puppy
onthis carpet?”
I can’t say I disagreed with her. The carpet was worn well beyond the timewhen it should have been replaced. The narrowness of the room dictates anarrow walking path to the sitting room and the veranda and it was wellworn. I mentioned this to the front desk and they offered to clean thecarpet; since this would curtail our use of the cabin for a day, wedeclined. We put towels down in the worst spots. The carpet was also wornthrough around the edge of the bed. Our friendly room steward tried to
helpbut the carpet was beyond spot cleaning. Holland
American should considerusing vinyl on the high
traffic paths in the room. The couch also required
towels, and the nice little pillow collection was pretty funky. I suspectthe cause was previous romance on the high seas. We’re not going to talkabout the bedspread; suffice to say we put the bedspread under the bed
andasked our steward to leave it there. The HAL
bathrobes that hung in ourcabin helped us to remain
relatively microbe free. The equivilant of puttinga
towel down before you sit at a nudist camp. Those of you familiar with thecomedy routines of Howie Mandel know he carries a blacklight to look forgerms.
Our hard working steward was completely worn out. He had 14 rooms to cleanand some people were paging him constantly trying to use him as theirpersonal butler. He was paged twice during a short conversation I was
tryingto have with him. I noticed officious
housekeeping staffers spiffy in theiruniforms
checking rooms but they were missing a lot considering thecondition of our cabin. Or was it just part of keeping up appearances andmaking check marks on a list? Is anyone supervising the supervisors?
Now we get to the sleeping part. The brochures say the beds are queen sizedbut they are not standard queens. They are 2 twin beds put together to
makeone. Their queen, 75 inches long, is 2 inches
shorter than standard queensized beds. I’m six feet
two and a half inches tall and my heels hang overthe
end of the bed. I tried to scrunch up but my sleep was fitful. Imentally blamed it on being in the far aft cabin where it is noisier andbouncier than midships but we wanted the view. I slept the second night
inthe 2 inches shorter bed and realized that I needed
to remedy the problem.
I dropped by the front desk and talked about my bed and they said they couldhelp me. They were very nice.
I went on about my business heading to the gym. The gym was spacious withall the goodies but it was a bit grungy. Rubber handles had broken offvarious machines, the deck needed vaccuming, chrome and brightwork was
dirtyand the huge picture windows were filthy. Loud
CNN was on TV, and aninstructor was shouting through
an aerobics class with driving workout musicplaying.
I asked a staff member to at least mute the TV sound but they keptit on along with the music. Not a very cruisey atmosphere.
Went back to the cabin and the message light was on. They were checking tosee if the bed had been fixed. It hadn’t. I asked to speak to JudyShepheard, the guest relations manager. Her hours were listed a 8A to
earlyafternoon; maybe she could help.The Captain, Tore Lura, mentioned in his speech that the ship was a hotelwith a propeller -- a line that they cut out of the cruise video they
wereoffering. I liked that line. It fit.
We both work in motion picture production and spend a lot of time onlocation and have stayed in all manner of hotels both first cabin and
almostdives. I figured a bed change would be easy. It
says queen sized in thebrochure and that’s what I
wanted. Judy Shepheard never called. When Ivisited
the desk again she was in a meeting. I went back to my cabin in thelate afternoon and there was a wooden bench about 30 inches wide, with apillow on it. I called the desk and they said to just put it on the end
ofthe bed. That might have worked had the bench been
long enough to stretchacross the whole width of the
bed. The bench and pillow were dirty also. Igot
madder. I called the desk and asked why the guest relations person wasducking me. She’s in a meeting was the stock answer through 3 calls to
thefront desk, even though her hours are listed in
the daily handout. Iconsidered calling the hotel
manager, Rene Tuinman, who had a card in theroom
telling me to have a perfect cruise and to contact him with anyproblems.
I took the bench & its filthy pillow down to the hotel desk and asked againto see Judy Shepheard. It was dinner time but I didn’t care. I wanted ahearing. I get testy from lack of sleep. After waiting awhile a desk
personsaid Judy would call me and I might as well
leave. I said that I wasn’tleaving until I saw Judy.
This is a high priced hotel, I expect reasonablehotel
service, especially from a particularized guest relations department.Note to Rene Tuinman: Don’t leave a nicely printed card in the cabin withyour signature on it wishing me a good trip and inferring he and his
staffare here to help with any situation that might
arise (I’m paraphrasing-Iforgot to bring the card)and
leave it in the hands of a related guestrelations
department head who was practicing avoidance in dealing with shortbeds.
Judy finally appeared listened to my story and left for a minute. She cameback with information on bed length and admitted to me that the 2 bedstogether had 2 inches less length than the standard queen. There were nostandard queens on the ship. Why this info took all of the second cruise
dayto obtain is beyond me. They could have told me a
hell of a lot earlier inthe day.
The little bench they sent looked used, so I’m not the first one with thisproblem. Judy was actually Judy Shepheard-Tuinman according to her
businesscard. She is married to the Hotel Manager,
Rene Tuinman. She is a mostinvisible Guest Relations
person. She seems to prefer to let the harriedfront
desk assistants handle the complaints.
If Holland-American would just get some “long-twin beds” they couldaccommodate taller people. They could set aside
a few rooms for thesepurposes and they would always
sell out. I recognize the problem that thenthe cabins
would be 2 inches narrower and look smaller but cruises are aboutcomfort, not just non stop food and entertainment. We finally solved the
bedproblem by pulling the mattress out from the wall
6 inches, placing pillowsin the gap between the wall
and the beginning of the top mattress.
The theme of the Zaandam is music and it plays everywhere...There are someinteresting musical artifacts on display...I never thought I could get
tiredof Frank Sinatra, Billie Holliday, Ella
Fitzgerald etc. but the playlist wasnarrow. I mean
I’m a baby boomer, no longer middle aged according to mydaughter. She explained I stopped being middle-aged when I passed 60, and
mywife and I were probably in that 25% of younger
passengers. It’s an oldercrowd. I love this kind of
music but enough is enough...more variety please.No
Vera Lynn songs. It can’t all be nostalgia. Can it?
The Wilson Palomo Trio played in the Explorers lounge...a great groupplaying Jazz and contemporary pop...then dinner ends and the 1st seatingcrowd is ready to dance and the music switches to a never ending
waterfallof foxtrot and waltz music interspersed with
ricky-tick Samba’s and ChaCha’s.
Same problem in the Crow’s nest...The Sunshine band is great...they playexcellent country, rock and pop but when 1st seating is over in come thedancers and that 4 beat foxtrot. I heard the cloying, sacharine
“AnniversaryWaltz” & “Tennessee Waltz” every night of
the cruise. I don’t wish to soundmean spirited but
the formula drove us out. Please keep it eclectic. I’m
HAL’s new targetdemographic. I’ll be getting my
medicare card in a coupleof years.
We retreated from the musical venues and relaxed more in our (funky) cabinor by strolling the decks. It never got as cold as we thought Alaska
wouldbe. We brought a big bag of parka & foul weather
gear that we did not use.
Note to Holland American.We had the lowest bar tab we have ever had
on acruise. Baby boomers may be pushing 60 but we
need to rock a bit. (Mywife is still under 60.) Age
is going to cause the current targeted Holland
American demographic to disappear in the next few years.
FOOD TASTE & RELATED SERVICE:
It’s hard pleasing all of the people all of the time to paraphrase an oldmaxim.
The Rotterdam Dining Room was excellent service wise and spotty food wise.
The filet mignon was not very filet or mignon. The vegetables were cooked
todeath. The meals got better as the cruise wore on
getting, much better nearthe end of the voyage. We
preferred eating there to the Lido cafeteria. It’s
ambience gave us the feeling of cruising we wanted.
We broke up the dining routine with room service served well and promptly.
We didn’t go to the Lido until the 4th day of the cruise in order not to beburned out by its sameness. This method works. When you finally go to theLido cafeteria it’s new to you.
We enjoyed eating breakfast in the Rotterdam dining room and lunch too. Weate during the open seating at breakfast and lunch at our regularly
assignedtable with our favorite servers. I can’t say
enough for Enrico our waiterand Dadang his assistant
along with dining room captain Muarif and 2ndmaitre’d
Helmi. They were professional and funny without being obsequious.They represented the best HAL had to offer us. We thank them!
The person I saw checking his department the most was Jerry the Maitre’d.
Early in the morning, later at night there he was; watching, talking to
thetroops, making sure. I would pass his office and
the door was always open.The sign of a good manager.
The Chef, Wolfgang Wasshausen, also was alwayson the
scene. Food service was the best run part of the hotel side. Foodtaste versus food description is another matter. It’s mostly rubber
chickenlevel banquet food. The better Las Vegas
hotels (Bally’s,Mirage,Rioetc.)have buffets and cafes
that meet my expectations on a regular basis. Itcan
be done.
The wait staff is tired. They always seem to be on duty. They should closethe Rotterdam for breakfast and lunch a couple of days a week and the
Lidoat least one day for breakfast & lunch.
ALTERNATE RESTAURANT:
The Monte Carlo is a great little Italian change of pace. The food is verygood. Maitre d’ Hilman and Chef Lazlo have a created a welcome respite
fromthe main room. The desserts were great too. We
had a lunch and a dinnerthere. Very pleasant. HAL
doesn’t charge any extra for this place but I’m
rethinking my previous resistance to paying for alternative cruising
alaCelebrity or NCL. It allows you more variety in
taste and cruising. One of
the reasons we chose HAL was because of the alternative dining for free. IfI can have more alternative dining I’m now ready to pay for it.
CASINO:
Las Vegas wins again. Don’t they always? The slots were tight. It was verysmoky. There was no table game excitement being generated.No buzz. Theywould promote a special game of
dealer’s cards up blackjack all over theship and then
only run one table. They could loosen the slots to get theenergy in the room up and maybe put some of these looser machines in thepublic room next door and make this area non smoking. The gaming staff
wasfriendly and helpful. It was strange to walk
through a casino in the morningand see all of the
slots asleep...no noise or flashing lights. Very bizarre.
PUBLIC AREAS:
The public areas were constantly being cleaned and vacuumed but it seemedmore for show than cleanliness. They pick up and clean but not very well.There is less obvious mess but the surfaces haven’t been cleaned well,
justpicked up. That part of the crew is tired. I’ve
spent time in Holiday Innsor Days Inns with higher
standards than the Zaandam. The only day that they
seemed to be really cleaning was embarkation/debarkation day. The standardof cleanliness was higher outside on the decks and in the pool & grill
areasthan inside.
I never saw the Hotel Manager (Rene Tuinman) walking the operation exceptwhen he was introduced by the Captain at the welcome party and at the
neverending debarkation marathon talk by the cruise
director. At the latter theMr. Tuinman ducked the
limelight. I checked the video footage and Mr.Tuinman
is indeed a shadowy figure ducking into the wings of the showroomafter his introduction. He certainly doesn’t manage the public areas
visiblyor invisibly in my opinion.
I suspect the management of thinking the balance sheet is most important andthe hotel was full. Why change a thing?
This hotel manager should take managing lessons from a Club Med Chef deVillage.
The captain’s crew is invisible also. It’s almost like ‘we’re running thisship...we’ll be at our posts out of sight and out of mind. Don’t talk to
orbother us.’
Only the Captain is visible. Some of the time. I must say his team runs theship part well. They maneuvered as closely and slowly as they could inGlacier Bay. Unfortunately, since Sept. 11 there are no more bridge
tours;we had been looking forward to one.
It is indeed a hotel with a propeller and a poorly managed one at that frommy point of view as a customer.
ALASKA:
Juneau, the state capitol, was overcast on our day there. Not worth takingthe aerial tram to the top in clouds. The aerial tours were cancelled
too.You can’t control the weather. We enjoyed
wandering there. We spent Mondaynight in Juneau until
an 11PM sailing. They have a local ABC affiliate there
broadcasting over the air, not just cable. It would have been nice to seethe Monday night football game in our cabin.
Skagway is metaphorically just a wide place in the road. We ignored the 31/2 plus hour White Pass train trip. We stayed in town and wandered
aroundand were hustled in our own language by our own
countrymen imploring us totake this and that
tour...We finally asked one of these hucksters where toget a good cup of coffee in town. He whispered a greasy, patronizing
asidein my ear “Just ask a local” and sent us to
Mabel’s. The coffee was thin andawful. Made Micky D’s
breakfast coffee taste like Starbucks. Anecdotally, we
heard there had been a Starbucks there but it closed. When is the last timea Starbucks closed? The Skagway locals’ behavior reminded me of thearrogance of the locals in rural Hawaii.
Ketchican was the third city we visited. It was nice to look around.Greattotem poles. A pleasant place. We prefer
city meandering to being bused tosites of interest.
My wife and I have scouted too many locations and we hateriding in maxivans without being paid for it. I’d rather pay a knowledgeabletaxi driver for a couple of hours of looking around and waiting while weshop.
Glacier Bay was fogged in. The cold of the glacier causes the fog to riseenough to see the bottom of the glacier but not much else. The sailors
did agreat job for us that day getting us as close as
they could. It was the bestday of the cruise even
with the foggy conditions. In the cruise video they
cut in shots of the glacier on a clearer day. That’s entertainment!
HAL’S TIPPING NOT REQUIRED POLICY
is a bigger load than what we found when we first entered our cabinbathroom. The service people work hard and keep smiling. We left the tipsrecommended on most cruises and sometimes over
tipped. We heard some folkstalking about how nice it
was not to tip. Shame on them. The cocktailservers
seem to suffer the most, fiscally and physically doing the mostrunning & smiling and getting stiffed on a regular basis. C’monfolks....we’re talking less than $200. for the whole cruise. Give it up
tothose who have served you well.
They deserve to be tipped when they take care of you. The unctuous cruisedirector (who sounded a lot like Merv Griffin) Jack Chambers, got into
HAL’stipping not required policy briefly, skirting
around the edge of it in hisdebarkation lecture. The
subtext of his speech was tip ‘em if they deserveit,
but a lot of folks chose to ignore the subtlety of his message.
Kudos to his assistant, Johnny I the bingo guy & Gavin his cohort forkeeping it as real as they could during the more inane moments. They did
agood job with the bingo games.
SUMMING UP:
I want to thank the cruise critics and reviewers who have worked hard atinforming us what’s up on the ships. Tom Milano & Vincent Fanelli come tomind as well as the cruise Diva and many others.
We’re hooked on the cruising part of cruising. We want better food (Vegaslevel) and more variety and choice of music. More interesting and
excitinggaming and more relaxing days at sea. We have
promised ourselves anothercruise(with a veranda)in the not too distant future,of at least 10 days. Itreally does take a
couple of days on board to really get relaxed. Then thereal cruising begins. We also want some days before and after the cruisespent exploring the embarkation/debarkation cities. Europe or the SouthPacific are looking good to us.