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reg 09-28-2003 10:07 AM

considering june 2004 cruise on noordam.have cruised 44 times including 11 on HAL and 3 on noordam.am concerned with reports in 2002 that noordam was dirty.friends reported really poor conditions in bathroom that steward was unable to clean up,also lido dining room in poor shape.would really appreciate comments from people who have been on noordam this year as HAL say she was in dry dock for thorough refurb in january this year.

reg 09-28-2003 10:07 AM

considering june 2004 cruise on noordam.have cruised 44 times including 11 on HAL and 3 on noordam.am concerned with reports in 2002 that noordam was dirty.friends reported really poor conditions in bathroom that steward was unable to clean up,also lido dining room in poor shape.would really appreciate comments from people who have been on noordam this year as HAL say she was in dry dock for thorough refurb in january this year.

Karen Knowlton 09-29-2003 02:16 PM

That being the case, she should be in pretty good shape. I had heard similar negative reports prior to sailing Maasdam last fall, but did not find any of the negatives mentioned - no bad smells, dirty spots, etc. - even though there had not been a recent refurbishment. A lot is in the eye of the beholder; you may find, if you have not been on HAL for several years, they may not offer quite the quality you remember. However, if you have sailed them in the last few years, you will probably not be disappointed.


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