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Old 02-08-2007, 05:26 AM
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Old 02-08-2007, 07:42 AM
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no - Carnival was a new, independent company when it was launched. However, your observation regarding the logos is correct and has an interesting background. When Carnival was launched it was such a poor company that Ted Arison, current CEO Micky Arison's father, didn't have the money to create a new logo for the company's first ship, "Mardi Gras", which had previously been a Canadian Pacific liner. So Carnival basically just changed the colors on the funnel and made small alterations to the CP logo.
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Old 02-08-2007, 06:00 PM
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Canadian Pacific is still around.

Both Carnival and Princess have links to Canadian Pacific.

Carnival's 1st Ship - the Mardi Gras was the ex. Canadian Pacific liner the Empress of Canada. Being a start up company of modest means with cash being tight - Carnival adpoted a modified version of the CP logo (like the previous poster said) - some of the 1st passengers could clearly see the name "Empress of Canada" under a fresh coat of paint. This also explains why every ship that sailed under the Carnival Flag has an Empress Deck. The word Empress was such a part of the ornate wood work that removing it would not be a viable option - it would be unsightly and damage the woodwork.

Princess cruises started out with seasonal charters of the CP ferry "Princess Patricia"
- she was the daughter of the Canadian Governor General during WW1
(there is also a Candain Infantry Regiment of the same name wich was founded at the beginning of WW1(at private expense), the founder of the regiment asked permission to name the regiment afer her and his offer was accepted)
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Old 02-08-2007, 07:23 PM
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Now that's a cool bit of trivia. I always wondered why there was an "Empress Deck"... pool deck made sense.. Main, Riveria.. Thanks PC Guy...
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Old 02-08-2007, 08:29 PM
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There was an excellent article in Cruise Travel several months ago about the beginnings of some of today's cruise lines. I recall that Costa, Carnival, NCL, and Princess were profiled -- might have been others, too. One of the questions posed in the opening of the story was, "Did you ever wonder why Carnival ships have an Empress Deck?"

Excellent observation, GREGGS007.
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Old 02-09-2007, 06:27 PM
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Thanks LisaP, I saw that same artice, and that is where I got the information from - with a bit of Canadian History added!
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