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Old 12-08-2006, 06:56 PM
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Dave,
I don't doubt for a second that you are sincere and I'm sure your feeling on this is based on your personal experience. But I've got to tell you that having worked in a lot of N.C.O. and enlisted men's bars on a lot of bases in Southern California, and a lot of bars frequented by the military, and also a lot of college pubs, there really isn't much diffenence in the level of maturity, or lack thereof. But then, that's just my experience.
By the way, what happened to 56--who's this new guy Beers?
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Old 12-08-2006, 07:51 PM
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I'll admit that in my many years of active duty I saw some hoseheads among the troops. Nothing is perfect. Some people in the military are jerks, just like anywhere else. I'd like to think the proportions are lower though, and I don't know when you worked the clubs but things are a lot tighter these days as compared to my days. I've heard of people who were given administrative discharges for getting repeat DUI's. In my day the command would have tried to squash the charges.
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Thanks for the reply, Dave.
I'm sure you are right, and I surely didn't mean to paint all military with the same brush. I worked a lot at Terminal Island Navy Base and Tustin Marine Base, and clubs in Orange County and Long Beach while attending Long Beach State from 1960-64; I've got a few years on you. I know those guys worked hard and were under a lot of pressure, what with Viet Nam heaating up; and when they were off, they could really let off steam.
By the way, 1974 was the year I started working for Princess! That was a quasi-military experience.
Cheers, Beers!
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Everyone has diferent opinions and methods on child raising. Personally I have found that they are going to do it anyway, and already have before age 18. Kids tend to get hurt and in trouble when trying to sneak around behind the backs of parents. The only thing I condone is instilling responsibility in her actions.
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Here in New Zealand a few years back they reduced the drinking age from 20 to 18. for much the same reasons as have been talked about here. Some people were not happy with this decision and unfortunately a minority of younger people especially in the majority of cases university students showed that they were not responsible enough to control their actions. Just recently Parliament decide to have a free vote on raising the drinking age back to 20 but it defeated by a hefty majority.
Whilst we are on the subject of alcohol. May I raise again the subject of bringing alcohol on board. We are not interested in trying to smuggle whisky or vodka on board but we do like our drop of wine in the evening in our cabin.
Carnival say quote "fine wine or champagne may be brought on board only during embarkation at the beginning of the cruise." what is their rule with regard to quantities. If whilst in Rome we buy say six bottles of wine (3 each) will this be OK.
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Give it a try~! its easier to ask forgiveness than to ask for permission!
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Well I have always thought if a person is considered legal age at the age of 18 then they should be able to buy beer. If they can fight for our country they should darn well be able to buy alcohol!
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I say the drinking age should be 18. Lets not fool ourselves here, 18 year olds drink and can get drinks at anytime. I feel that the law is not to protect 18 year olds, it is to just have more laws.
 
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