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Old 11-16-2006, 06:26 AM
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Carnival has announced that the November 19 cruise of the Liberty will be delayed for two days so they may sanitize the ship. During it's current trans-Atlantic crossing, approximately 700 passengers and crew became ill with what is believed to be the noro virus.

The new cruise will depart on November 21 and will be a 4-day. Those booked have a choice - stay on the cruise and get 50% refunded plus 50% off a future cruise of 8 days or less, or cancel and get 100% refunded within 2 weeks.
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Old 11-16-2006, 06:27 AM
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thats gross, nasty!
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Old 11-16-2006, 07:19 AM
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Looks like it's going to be a bad flu year.
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National News was late on this one!

Dave gave us a Heads Up on the 16th!

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Old 11-20-2006, 05:46 AM
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IslandCruz,

I could claim that my vast influence and my insider network at Carnival gave the news earlier, but then I'd be lying. I was doing a google on an unrelated Carnival issue and saw the news story buried on page two.
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Old 11-20-2006, 06:39 AM
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This is almost entirely avoidable from a cruise passenger's point of view. Wash your hands. Make use of the sanitizer provided around the buffets, on re-boarding the ship when returning from the day's activities in port.

Think of where your hands have been. Touching railings, putting a package down on the ground and picking it up.

On the buffets there are tongs and spoons provided but remember that not everyone who handled the untensils washed their hands so a quick use of the sanitizer before you eat is not out of line!

Why are cruise ships notorious for this? Simply that there is a large concentration of people in a small area! Per capita, cruise ships are no more suceptible than other concentrations of people.
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Old 11-20-2006, 08:43 AM
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Chef Ken - great post. I do as you say - if I use a buffet I do a hand cleaning before eating. Wash my hands several times day, etc. I've read where one of the biggest reasons for infections developing in hospitals is because the doctors are sloppy about cleaning up.

The Freedom Of The Seas had a sanitizing station at the entrance and the official greeter was encouraging everyone to get a spritz of sanitizer both coming and going. This one sensed your hands and automatically dispensed the compound so you didn't need to touch anything. However, we also carry those pocket sized bottles.
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:59 AM
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Chef Ken - great post. I do as you say - if I use a buffet I do a hand cleaning before eating. Wash my hands several times day, etc. I've read where one of the biggest reasons for infections developing in hospitals is because the doctors are sloppy about cleaning up.

The Freedom Of The Seas had a sanitizing station at the entrance and the official greeter was encouraging everyone to get a spritz of sanitizer both coming and going. This one sensed your hands and automatically dispensed the compound so you didn't need to touch anything. However, we also carry those pocket sized bottles.
I agree a great post. A passenger is very much in control of virus attack. It can be hard to keep up with, just remember the virus needs to get on your hands and then to your mouth or nose or something. I have a relative who works on a cruise ship. The Ship takes good precautions but sometimes it simply isn't enough. She works on the Carnival Liberty that just experienced one of the worst breakouts, she was taken sick as well and quarentined.

Here are a few inside tips to know if any one has reported symptons. If the buffets are being served to you then the ship is beginning to take precautions, when you see this get serious about washing up before you eat. If there are more than just 1 or 2 people cleaning hand rails then step up your washing. They clean all the time but more than a few in any location is a procedure to limit contact. The ships will do this is even if a very few like 1 or 2 report to the infirmary with flu symptoms, Don't panic just wash up and you will enjoy the cruise.
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Old 11-20-2006, 03:52 PM
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I have only been on one Carnival ship and that is the Conquest. We are leaving on the Elation on Sat the 25th. I did not see any hand sanitizers on the Conquest but last year on the Wind they were everywhere. Many employees were there to give you a squirt. If there were no employees there would be stations. I watched several walk right by it. These are the people causing the problems. If it's there USE IT! For yourself and everyone on the ship.

I bring a can of Lysol with me and spray everything in the cabin from the door knobs to the shower floor. Anything I may come in contact with I spray and spray and spray. I also spray the sheets and any bedspreads. Do you know that hotels and I assume ships do not change bedspreads and blankets after each guest? You would be surprised how little they change these items. The first thing I do is pull the bedspread down to the bottom. People SIT on these. I cannot spray the whole ship but spraying my room gives me a little peace of mind. Always carry hand sanitizer in your purse or pocket. Do you know how many germs are on casino chips?

Buffet tongs are touched by how many people? When they fall into the dish there are germs now conatminating the food. I do not like buffets for this reason. I was at a buffet once and the sign said children under 10 must be assisted by parents. I watched 2 children come out of the bathroom (did they wash their hands?) and grab a handful of M & Ms out of the dessert station. They did not use the provided spoon. I told an employee but doubt that they changed the bowl.
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I bring my own "wet ones" individuals.

Have also been rediculed and made fun of on this board for being Germ concerned.

I use the the wipes before I touch my food. I don't touch the bathroom door knob, and I don't swipe my hands all over the table and pick my food up or rub my eyes.

To me is common sense in a crowded shared use area. I spray my bathroom down with lysol also.

The Funniest thing I see is in the Men's Room. The guy's come in and pee, handle their own business so to speak, and wash their hands and touch the door knob on the way out.

I would rather have the germs on my "business" than those on the door knob anyday.
 
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