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This just in from my subscription to cruiseweek@aol.com
Lawyers argued in the U.S. Supreme Court Monday whether and to what extent the Americans With Disabilities Act applies to foreign-flagged cruise ships that operate within U.S. waters. Spirited questions posed by Supreme Court Justices indicated the case may have ramifications beyond the particulars of the ADA. The background: the petitioners are a group of U.S. cruise ship passengers with mobility impairments covered by the ADA and their companions on the cruises. One of the disabled petitioners, Douglas Spector, booked passage with the rest of his family on the Norwegian Sea out of Houston in 1999. He contends he was charged nearly twice what other family members paid, even though his cabin category was lower. He cited numerous complaints ranging from the cabin not being properly equipped for someone in a wheelchair to inaccessible public areas of the ship (including the main dining room). Spector is not seeking money, just changes. In their brief, lawyers for the petitioners argued, "It is impossible to believe that Congress intended that cruise lines such as respondent [NCL] that engage in the façade of foreign flagging would be free to discriminate against Americans when operating in U.S. territory." During the Supreme Court session on Monday, the lawyer for NCL, David Frederick, argued that if Congress wanted to cover the cruise industry under the ADA law, it should have said so explicitly, but it didn't. Chief Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, echoed by Justice Sandra O'Connor, indicated this interpretation could impact other areas: "So you're saying the cruise ship is free to discriminate on the basis of race, because the cruise industry was not specifically covered in the public accommodations provision of the Civil Rights Law?" Frederick responded that the Bahamas, where the Sea is registered, has laws against discrimination. Justice David Souter continued: "So your answer is 'Yes. As far as U.S. laws go, they can discriminate.'" Frederick replied affirmatively. Upon further questioning, he said that the majority of passengers on NCL are from the U.S., and that the majority of its cruises begin and end on U.S. shores. Ginsburg noted, "You're asking us to say then an enterprise centered in the U.S. is not bound by U.S. law?" Our prediction is the Court will split on the issue. Questions asked by some Justices indicate they feel the argument by NCL-- that the ADA doesn't apply to cruise ships since they weren't specifically cited--isn't valid. On the other hand, certain Justices seemed to be swayed by NCL's argument that changes would require a huge outlay of money, and also, it would be difficult to comply with the different laws in every country visited on a ship. According to National Public Radio, during the hearing, Associate Justice Stephen Breyer commented: "Take the Queen Mary [QM2]. There's no way they can change the ship structurally when it's in New York and not do it when it's in Europe." Justice Antonin Scalia later said, "Once you get rid of a step, you're not going to change it three miles out." A ruling in the case is expected by summer. In the meantime, NCL is reporting that since Spector sailed in 1998, NCL has made numerous changes in the meantime anyway. For one thing, the ships themselves are different--of the two vessels mentioned in the suit, the Norwegian Star left the fleet five years ago, and the Sea is leaving this summer. The newer ships contain amenities such as Braille indicators for elevator buttons and cabin numbers, electrical hoists for the pools and Jacuzzis, tender boats that are accessible via wheelchair, and up to 27 cabins per ship that are wheelchair accessible with grab bars in the bathrooms. Plus, on its older ships, NCL has removed barriers to wheelchairs, built ramps, converted cabins, etc. I hope this is helpful. David Landry |
I think this just goes to show that quality cruise lines, such as NCL and others will work to accommodate those with disabilities as a mater of good buisness. Getting the courts involved will only hurt the smaller lines. Those lines that can't, or won't make these changes will eventually suffer.
One can not equate "discrimination" of disabilities with racial discrimination in this case. Racial or other ethnic discrimination is an emotion and in no way involves prohibative, costly modifications to the ship which changing the lack of handicapped access in many cases will. My humble opinion would be for those involved in this suit to spend their money on another cruise line which does accommodate their needs rather than bolster attorneys pockets. |
Hurray for NCL and the changes. However I will bring up one point. My son who was 1 year could not use any of the pools on aboard a ship because he was in diapers....not even with the pull ups on which are for swimming. My question is if a child can't wear pull ups and use the pools...why is a disabled person allowed to use the pools if they are wearing adult diapers?
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