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Old 07-24-2007, 06:03 AM
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Watch out Freedom of the Seas here comes Carnival Magic and Carnival Dream pretty nice size ship.
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Apparently Carnival is not returning their calls, Norwegian and Disney want their names back.
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Old 07-24-2007, 05:02 PM
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And these new ships are still around 30,000 gross tons smaller than the Freedom class ships.
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And what were they thinking? I was hoping for more original names. Magic and Dream will be approx. 130,000 tons. The difference Dave speaks about is about the same as the entire ship for my first cruise. It is staggering, and wasn't it reported that RCI had a 220,000 on order?

Spritfilled, I am excited about the new ships also. From articles I have read though, CCL is not going to play the size game.
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I figured that I was just excited to see carnival expanding what they had in size that's all, i didn't think it would get as large as the RCCl ships they are ginormous.
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It is staggering, and wasn't it reported that RCI had a 220,000 on order?
Yes, indeed. The new RCCL Genesis class...
Check her out: genesis of the seas
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:29 AM
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Dave... I agree that the new ships are 30,000 or so gross tons less than the Freedom class ships, but look at the passenger count... 3652 passengers. (Compared to the Freedom's 3634 )When we went on the Mariner, I kept trying to figure out why a ship of that tonnage did not seem that much larger than the Conquest or for that matter have more people on it. (MOTS carrries 3114 passengers versus Conquest's 2974 - only 140 more) I think the answer is that there is a large amount of "wasted" volume on those ships with the Promenade. I think since the volume is used to calculate the tonnage, and with four floors at almost the length of the ship holding little more than air, I think we need to look more at passenger count than at r.g.t. for comparisons.

I think Carnival uses that interior area for facilities and cabins. Provided they each have equal public area sizes, then I think things are comparable between the 2 classes. I certainly hope that the new ships have the additional ammenities and public areas required to handle the additional passenger load, but if they do, I see little difference between the two sizes. Of course if CCL is just packing more passengers into given volume without addding additional features, that would be bad too. But having been on both the Conquest and the MOTS, I think they both handled the load equally well.
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Does size matter?!!
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:50 AM
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When I was writing my reply, that thought DID occur to me, but I let it go. I was also thinking about something along the lines of "the motion of the ocean" fitting in perfectly....
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