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Old 04-22-2010, 08:22 AM
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As most logical people already knew, those art auctions on cruise ships must be looked upon with a jaundiced eye. Read more in Paul Motter's article at Cruisemates, located HERE
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Old 04-22-2010, 11:52 AM
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And so it seems another scam is coming to an end.

I have gone to a couple of art auctions on board, not to buy, but just to see the different offerings. In my opinion, they were all over priced. I can get the same thing when they have the Holiday Inn sales for $25-$40. At least those are actual oils, painted by unknown artists, but look just as nice as some of the things I've seen on board. I do know Princess sells a couple of artists that are home grown (Hawaii and New York). I still wouldn't pay the prices they wanted.
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It was either here or on a recent cruise, but I recall someone saying they saw the auction workers slinging these supposedly rare pieces of art around like they were stacking cardboard out of sight of the people who just bought them. The lawsuits against Park West will now start stacking up since they have an adjudicated basis for complaint.

The owner of the art firm was doing the appraisals on pieces they were selling. I remember when I bought my 65 K-code Mustang. The seller wrote out an appraisal for my insurer. Of course they said it was worthless and I had to get an independent appraiser with a pedigree to do it. Same thing.
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I'm sure glad I only went for the free champagne!

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Old 04-23-2010, 07:46 AM
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Well I sure am glad to hear this... I hope Carnival kicks them off their cruise ships. I went to one auction and luckily did not purchase anything. I came back and did some internet study on Park West and was alarmed at the negative posts and testimonials I saw. I never wasted my time at an art auction on a cruise since (not even for the free booze Dwayne). I can't believe CCL continues to let them do business. Hopefully is a contract thing and they won't renew it (like the Carnival Vacation Club fiasco)
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Hey, free booze is free booze! They could have had K-Mart Velvet Elvis pictures and people would have went.

It's all a sales gimmick IMHO. Get people on their first cruise and feeling (liquored up) special and there ya go.
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You're right, Dwayne, that's why they offered the "free" champagne. They were hoping that a few glasses of the bubbly would cloud one's perception. However, I did enjoy that part of the auction the best
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[quote]Originally posted by Dave:
As most logical people already knew, those art auctions on cruise ships must be looked upon with a jaundiced eye.[quote]

You are so polite Dave, Park West is a local company here and I have always been shocked at the prices they ask for, can you see the class action lawsuits coming?? Whew!!
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The real eye opener about the art auctions is this: according to a post on our sister forum CruiseMates, the art auctions are the dominant revenue generator on cruises. They often bring in more money than bars, shops, and tours combined and the cruise line gets a 60% cut. This info came from a Hotel Manager who I believe works for Princess although he doesn't say. I was quite surprised to learn that a typical cruise has at least one passenger who will spend at least $100,000, and several who spend between $50k and $100k. He also said a lot of sales are privately closed in the art auction office pretty much like negotiations for buying a car - except they are sipping a vintage wine and not the cheap champagne they pass out at the auctions.
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I find it comical that an art collector would go on a RCCL or Carnival cruise to buy 500k worth of art, even if it were authentic. Just more proof to the saying "a fool and his money are soon parted."
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