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Old 11-18-2006, 05:10 PM
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Is anyone familiar with the passenger services act? I wanted to book back to back cruises and was told that I couldn't. The 1st cruise left from Los Angeles and ended in Vancouver,BC. Then leaving on the same ship from Vancouver, BC to Whittier. Was told that Vancouver is not considered a foreign port as specified in the law?? Any info would be helpful. Thanks, Cheryl
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Old 11-18-2006, 05:23 PM
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Hi Cheryl

Its my understanding from when I was a travel agent ( haven't sold travel in since 9/11 so rules could have changed some)that all that happens is that you have to physically leave the ship, aka go to the check in desk (which you will be escorted by someone on the ship if you arrange it early) and get a updated SeaPass and then reboard the ship. Its no different than changing flights. But the catch is on your cruise is that you and everyone in your group has to leave and re enter the ship.I would call RCCL (or the line you are using) vacation planners directly because the Travel Agent you are using may not be knowledgeable in handling it was the cruise lines agent. Oh yea its just you that has to leave not your luggage.
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Old 11-18-2006, 06:04 PM
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The PSA is a very weird law with many exceptions, exemptions and other oddities. I don't know why Vancouver wouldn't be considered a foreign port....it is good enough to be a foreign port by law for the end of the first cruise. I am thinking, as ceemonster notes, that you have to legally enter Canada via immigration and customs and then reboard the ship. Maybe someone with a keener sense of understanding of PSA will chime in here.
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:27 AM
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Maybe its the way you are asking it to be booked. If you are wanting a 2 week cruise and not change cabins in between, then maybe that's the reason. Otherwise, why would it be different than flying to Vancouver and just doing the cruise to Whitter. Worst case I would think is that you would have to disembark, go through Canada customs and come aboard like a new passenger.

I'd call the cruise agents directly. There has to be a way to do this that is easy on both you and them. I would bet that you are not the first. AND if you have to book it as 2 seperate cruises, that works in your favor as then you get credit for 2 instead of one.
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Old 11-20-2006, 12:43 PM
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Well the way I also look at it if you take one the trans-atlantic cruises lets say from New Orleans and you visit some islands along the way such as lets say Bermuda and then some European cities Then disembark in lets say Paris ( I think Paris is in France still which is not a US city you can then either fly back or cruise back. I think there is more being read into the ACT than there is there. Thats why I would in this instance recommend calling RCCL's Travel Specialist to book it. Then you will see on your cruise you will just disembark like normal then go through the check in procedure all over but with out the lines of course while your luggage is already in your cabin. I also do not believe you will have to go through "US Customs either since you will be in Canada. )
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Old 11-20-2006, 06:00 PM
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This is, by far, the best article I've seen about the Passenger Services Act:

Jones - A Hard Act to Follow

The reason the back-to-back cruise in the original post is not permitted is complicated. It is a transit that would start in one U.S. city and end in another U.S. city without stopping at a nearby foreign port AND also allows permanent disembarkation along the way.
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Old 11-20-2006, 07:15 PM
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I need to correct an error in my previous post.

The last sentence should read:
It is a transit that would start in one U.S. city and end in another U.S. city without stopping at a distant foreign port AND also allows permanent disembarkation along the way.

(Just another example of how confusing this Act is...)
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Old 11-26-2006, 03:31 PM
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princess cruise line will not, under any circumstances let me book these two cruises. does not make sense to me. guess they just lost 6 passengers on two separate cruises.
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Old 11-26-2006, 04:30 PM
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crhmeh, NO cruiseline sailing out of the U.S. will let you book these cruises. Please read the article provided in the link in my first post for more details.
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Old 11-26-2006, 04:55 PM
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Lisa, thanks for posting the link to Alan Walker's article. I miss reading his well-written and thoughtful column. A brilliant and gracious man...
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