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Old 09-15-2006, 06:46 PM
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Sorry to hear that your experience wasn't a good one, Andrew. I suspect that cruising NCL may not be the best choice for you - perhaps a luxury cruise line (one that includes gratuities in the fare) would work better. Of course, it would cost quite a bit more. "You get what you pay for" is often true in the travel industry.

I disagree that those refusing to tip are "on the right track." Although you make a valid point, that it's a bit underhanded to keep adding on other charges, in order to keep advertised prices lower, I think it's wrong to "make a point" at the expense of the hardworking staff. Yes, they're from developing countries, and yes, that's largely because they will accept wages that those of us in North America and Western Europe wouldn't, but they work very hard, long hours. Failing to tip just because you feel the cruise line should pay decent wages only hurts the crew, and will go totally unnoticed by the powers that be in the cruise industry.
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:53 PM
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I do not agree that they "are on the right track" either. These people work amazing hard, long hours. They are also very good at their jobs. I can not believe that anyone complains about the amount of tips that they pay. The minimum of $10 per day is ridiculous! We gave extra money to people. Think of the job the room steward does picking up and cleaning up after us and then think of what he gets in tips. The little extra I gave him in cash seemed a small amount compared to the work. These people may be from other countries developed or not but their work ethic is empecible. If you are not willing to pay a little more the great service maybe cruising isn't the venue for you
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Old 09-15-2006, 08:04 PM
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Most cruiselines pool the auto tips ..if you remove the tips and pay the person they still have to turn in the tip to the pool or risk losing their job.
If you tip above the auto-tip then the person get to keep the extra money.
We always leave the auto -tip on and tip extra for extra service.
I like the auto tip pool method, with the freestyle dining it make more sense.
We use to eat in the buffet for lunch and felt the staff there missed out on the last night envelopes.
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Old 09-15-2006, 11:01 PM
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On CCL there is a portion of "auto-tips" that is for the Buffet service people that is pooled.

All the tips are broken down on your statement for what they are for. I don't know if they pool the main dining room.

I take off the Waiter and The Steward and tip them cash based on their service as that it what a tip is suppose to be for. I leave on all the general tips and if someone does extra I give them extra in cash.

Everyone ends up with more that served me or took care of my cabin than would have gotten through the "Auto". I am just old school and is how I do it.

If they are required to turn it in would still balance in their favor. I have been on a few cruises that had a feeling alot of people were going to get stiffed. I made sure my People got tipped equal and above the pool.

Sorry so long, to the original question from Kate. You did good, except tip the Bus/Assistant waiter also.

As someone with a food service and hotel background is a strange concept of tipping before services are rendered and to be pooled among slackers. I tip the people that serve me and am not interested in a cruise lines labor costs while I am on Vacation.

That's all I got to say about that
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Old 09-16-2006, 07:11 AM
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from Carnival's site:
The dollar amount of the gratuities will appear in the Miscellaneous Charge field on the booking. The guest copy on the cruise ticket will indicate if gratuities have been paid.

The total amount will be $10 per guest, per day, which breaks down as follows:

* $5.50 pp/pd for Dining Team Service (Headwaiter and Waiter)
* $1 pp/pd for Bistro Service (Waiter/Cooks)
* $3.50 pp/pd for Cabin Services (Cabin Steward)

Tipping the Maitre D' is strictly at guest's discretion, based upon services rendered. For guests who wish to extend this gratuity in cash, an envelope will be available on the last evening of the cruise.

Tipping still applies regardless of the dining options selected, such as eating at the casual dining restaurant or utilizing room service.

Bar Waiters, Deck Stewards and Bell Boys - Certain personnel, as noted above, may be tipped as service is rendered. A 15% gratuity is automatically added to beverage purchases which the guest may adjust appropriate to the service received.
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Old 09-16-2006, 09:01 AM
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I would like to know what people think is an appropriate "extra" at the end of the trip for the room steward and the waiter. It seems what little more you give them doesn't really seem like much. Also, when the people who bring you the drinks who gets the 15%, the bartenders or waiters? I usually figure that since they automatically add the tip I only tip them more if they are bringing me more than one drink during the show or what ever I am currently doing. Does this seem appropriate?
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Old 09-16-2006, 09:58 AM
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My understanding is that the bar drink 15% is shared by bartenders and waiters. I assume the bartenders get a bigger piece of the pie.

Actually I rarely use waiters. I prefer to sit at the bar so I usually end up having a couple favorite bartenders. These folks will get an extra cash tip from me, usually twice during a 7-day cruise - $20 on day 3 and another $20 or so on the last day.

Beyond the auto-tip amount I'll hand out another $30 to the room steward and give an extra $20 or $30 each to the waiter and bus boy.
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Old 09-16-2006, 10:34 AM
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that is what I paid but it seems small when we do it. At least I know I am not chincy on tips compared to someone else. I guess others possibly pay more and some pay less. I will stick with what I have done this past cruise for future cruises
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Old 09-16-2006, 10:48 AM
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It may seem small but remember they have several cabins or tables. They are getting around $75 for the three of us on a 7-day, so I don't think another $20 is being chincy. It is almost 30% more than the suggested amount.

All of this said, I have tipped much more when the particular staffer has been clearly superior. I recall giving an extra $80 to a waiter and $60 to his assistant on the Century back in 2000. They were and still are the best team we've ever had in a dining room. Both were from Turkey and a lot of fun as well as being superb at their jobs.
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Old 09-16-2006, 11:48 AM
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Way to go Dave Frankly everytime this subject comes up it amazes me the excuses and reasons people come up with why they shouldn't tip. $10 a day spread out among waiter/asst waiter/buffet/cabin steward is nothing. If you do a pre or post in Miami you will notice in Miami an automatic gratuity is added to your food bill. If your bill is $50 for two people that's $7.50 @ 15%. For one meal! Many places charge automatic 18-20% if your party is 8 people or over. Have those waiters worked harder for that amount than the waiters on a ship? I think not. Yet, people want to complain about $3.50 a day to a waiter that works long hours, puts up with snooty people that think they're superior,has to share his room with three others, and hasn't seen his family in six months. And the reason he is doing this is because even under these conditions he is providing for his family and making more than he could in his home country. The same people that want to stiff the crew on tipping are the ones that will spend $4 a day on overpriced coffee, or run out everyday spending atleast $5 or more for lunch. The me, me,me, generation. Oh, and let's not forget how much money they're going to drop in the casino, me,me,me, or treating themselves to a $150 spa treatment, me,me,me,. But heaven forbid they should do the right thing and tip the recommended tip for three full meals plus all the extra they ate all day long. These same people think the cruise line should just pay the crew higher wages, but don't raise their cruise price of $399 for 7nt cruise,(or in Jason G's case $120 ). If this me,me,me generation think they have a right to treat themselves since they work hard and they deserve it, then I agree, but the crew also work hard and they DESERVE it too! So H20Watson, you are not being chincy with a $5, $10, $20, or whatever extra you can give. You are being generous and civil to the crew and will definetely put a smile on their face.
 
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