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Old 04-25-2011, 09:07 PM
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I'm sorry, but all the precautions in the world are not going to help you if you get caught in the cross-fire of a random drug gang execution--and this has happened in tourist areas.
Good point. The best precaution in my mind is avoiding travel to Mexico. There's never a right time to be in the wrong place. To say Mexico is very safe, and to suggest the U.S and Canada is more of a risk than Mexico? You've got to be kidding!
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I would cruise to Mexico, I loved the people, the beaches, the culture. BUT I said and will say again, I would not fly there and vacation there. I think the cruise ports are as safe as they can make them, But the Mexican government cant stop the drup trade in the other towns and one day the drug trade WILL make it to the cruise ports.
What a better way to control the people then take away their source of money and only the drug trade can replace it. They issued the travel warning for a reason.
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Sorry, but we also have drug wars in Toronto and people get hurt every day. There are areas which we have been told to keep away from. I have driven thru Detroit and several other US cities and have been advise to keep away from certain areas. This problem is not only Mexico, but world wide!!!! The big issue is that people are only making comments on Mexico. We have stayed at resorts and rented cars and drove all over Mexico with no issues. We are advise what areas not to drive in, so we keep away from these.
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I agree with you Wooten to a point, and that point is... we have not had mass killings in the US or in Canada that I have heard about. I think with the Mexican drug trade it is more about controling the people of Mexico. We have that in places but I dont think we have it to the point Mexico does.
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It breaks my heart when I read about this in Mexico. I know we have problem areas in the US and Canada, too, but I think we have a little better handle on the situation.

I hope I am able to do the Mexican Riviera itinerary in December, but if not, I will feel that the cruise line has my best interest at heart.

Detroit is a prime example of what crime does to a city. It was once a vibrant area. Now it is a ghost town. No jobs, mainly gangs, a shell of its former self.

These gangs don't care who they hurt, and they are hurting their fellow citizens. If the cruise lines pull out of Mexico, a HUGE part of their economy goes with it. Then the locals who can't beat the gangs will end up joining them. It's a scary situation.

I guess all we can do is stay aware of what is going on, read as much as we can, and use common sense.

I'd hate to see some of the ports removed or Mexico removed totally. However, it wouldn't be the first time it has happened and unfortunately, probably not the last.
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I wouldn't be too concerned in Cabo or Puerto Vallarta--I really enjoyed those ports the few times I've been there. Any other ports you would find me on board the ship. Another point about crime in the U.S. and Canada is you don't hear about beheading. I seems to me that the drug gangs in Mexico are even more gruesome that the extreme terrorist in the far East.

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It breaks my heart when I read about this in Mexico. I know we have problem areas in the US and Canada, too, but I think we have a little better handle on the situation.

Detroit is a prime example of what crime does to a city. It was once a vibrant area. Now it is a ghost town. No jobs, mainly gangs, a shell of its former self.

I guess all we can do is stay aware of what is going on, read as much as we can, and use common sense.

I'd hate to see some of the ports removed or Mexico removed totally. However, it wouldn't be the first time it has happened and unfortunately, probably not the last.
Penny, When was the last time you were in Detroit? Being from Michigan originally I know that Detroit and Michigan in general, has a high unemployment rate due mainly to the auto industry. Detroit however; hardly is a ghost town. It is thriving with Greek Town and it's three large casinos "Greek Town", "Ceasars" and "MGM". The Tiger baseball stadium, Cobo Hall, and Joe Louis Arena, all draw huge crowds for events. Not to mention the Pistons Hockey team that play at the Palace. Detroit has been working on fixing up the water front with remodeling condos, shops, and restaurants.

You're right. The best thing for anyone to do is use common sense and be aware. This holds true no matter where we travel in the world.
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:10 PM
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You can go to any area of the Country and find drug related problems. Some of the larger City slum areas seem worst. It is a problem we really need to get a handle on fast. It seems like every morning the news has a new killing in Fresno. Sounds like most are gang related.

As others have said watch your environment, be aware, and stay alert. I would still cruise and enjoy Mexico. I think I would take ship excursions. I would not do my own thing. There is safety in numbers.
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Sorry, CruiseFanatic, I watched a report on Detroit where they were condemning entire neighborhoods. The mayor wanted to turn one area into a park and try to bring business back. Guess I shouldn't believe what the news reports, they usually stretch the truth. I guess since the mayor was being interviewed, I believed it. I should know better
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