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Old 01-02-2005, 07:30 AM
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I know this is an old subject, but when does the atuomatic gratuity take affect? We were aboard the Sea last month and I asked for this to be taken off my bill and opted to give tips to who I wanted. We are sailing again in April on the Spirit and can I do this again? I think for the the price you pay for the cruise and all the extras you buy on the ship the tips should be something you decide how much you want to tip.
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I know this is an old subject, but when does the atuomatic gratuity take affect? We were aboard the Sea last month and I asked for this to be taken off my bill and opted to give tips to who I wanted. We are sailing again in April on the Spirit and can I do this again? I think for the the price you pay for the cruise and all the extras you buy on the ship the tips should be something you decide how much you want to tip.
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Old 01-02-2005, 08:47 AM
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Hi angeldust,

it was originally announced that the "service charge" would be incorporated in May, 2005. However, NCL's web site now does no longer mention that date.
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I am pretty sure that NCL has eliminated the option of having them removed or changed on your account.

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Old 01-02-2005, 10:33 AM
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Tom,

yes, it appears that the policy has already been incorporated on all ships (at least the NCL web site implies this). However, when the service charge was announced a couple of months ago, NCL's official press release said that - not counting "Pride of Aloha" which had the charge from the very beginning - the ships would feature the non-removable, non-changeable charge from May, 2005.
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So, would I be out of line to ask that they be taken off my on board account?,or do I just shut up and pay it. I really like the idea of just tipping myself. What would you advise?
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You can ask, but I suspect the answer will be no. You used to be able to do this, but I believe NCL stopped it because too many of their personnel were being stiffed by the guys that requested that they wanted to tip directly.

It is certainly a consideration when trying to determine the true price of the cruise.

Let us know how it goes.

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Old 01-03-2005, 12:43 PM
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I like the way you put it, it is certainly a consideration in the price of a cruise.I try to avoid all cruise lines that have automatic gratuity's I feel that I recive MUCH better service when the tipping is done on personal basis.If the cruise line want's to do this auto matic thing why don't they just raise the price of the cruise to cover it and then fire the personel that doesn't perform his or her job properly?If it get's to the point that I can't get a cruise without the automatic gratuity I will add it to the price and use that as a guide.I think maybe that if the cruise line paid thier help instead of depending on the passengers to make payroll things would be a lot better for everyone except the cruise lines.Just my opinion, but I certainly do not like the automatic grat.
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Old 01-03-2005, 01:34 PM
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Hi Tom,

I have been saying for years that tipping should be handled the way it is done in Europe, i.e. that the costs for the employees' salary should be included in the fare and that additional tipping should be totally voluntary but allowed.

The problem is that this only works if all lines adopt such a policy, as it would make a line's fares higher than a competitor's fares with tips not included. And in our time where many people try to pay as little as at all possible, this could well be a bid disadvantage for a line including gratuities. People usually look at the basic cruise fare and not primarily at what's included.

So, in a way both the cruise lines and the customers are responsible for today's ridiculous tipping policies, which often insult the original meaning of the word "tip".
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Old 01-04-2005, 05:22 AM
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The worst is the Holland Line where tips are not required. The key word is required instead of included. You are constantly being reminded that they are not required but are appreciated. A 20 minute show turns into 60 minutes because of all the begging by the cruise director.
 
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