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Old 09-26-2006, 12:56 PM
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Take a closer look at NCL's financial statement.

Operations made $22 million in the first half of this year, including paying for American workers wages and paying higher fuel costs.
For the first half of this year, finances caused the majority of the NCL's losses. From last year's figures and this year's so far, NCL paid an additional $160 million for long term debt, and loss another $27 million on foreign exchange rates converting Dollars into Euros. That's an additional lost of almost $200 million from last year, surprisingly NCL's bottom line only shows a $64 million loss. So NCL is making money somewhere, and that includes Hawaii.
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Old 12-09-2006, 01:37 PM
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Well, this could further debate the immigrant labor issue as they they do the work that the majority of Americans simply WILL NOT PERFORM or capable of doing.
Please...... Americans are not above any job. They just want a living wage out of it. These jobs that we "need" immigrant labor for is just bs. It deals with most Americans don't want to live six families to a house, have health, and auto insurance. If your business can't provide a living wage then find another business. Donít ask the rest of us to subsidize it. Their worker still get sick still get into accidents, and their children still attend school. All without paying their fair share
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Old 03-04-2007, 05:53 PM
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Are all teh complainants American? having worked for 6 years in the industry Ive heard about the American fleet of NCL having staffing problems.

get teh impression that the folk who go to Piney point and go ona NCLA ship are expecting a 9-5 and I have rights attitude and experience
welcome to the real world kids

Sure piny point may have its faults but i seriously doubt it to the extremes you have made it out.

sounds like the name should be changed to whiney point .

as i said earlier 6 years in the biz and 16 ships and never ever experienced anything like that.
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by Life's what U make it:
..............To get stringent maritime law exclusions, NCL-A somewhat made a deal with the state of Hawaii that they'll employ American workers instead of foreign workers. Well, it's an experiment that continues to disappoint many cruisers who are used to getting pampered royally by highly appreciative foreign cruise staff at foreign-flagged ships.

It wasn't a deal, it was "The Omnibus Appropriations Bill"

It was "......passed by the U.S. Congress on February 13, 2003, includes a provision that will mark the rebirth of the Hawaiian cruise industry..............Norwegian Cruise Line, which is based in Miami, has been the leader in Hawaiian cruises since 2001. Their ship, the Norwegian Star, however, makes a trip to Fanning Island in the Republic of Kiribati on each of its inter-island cruises.

The recently passed bill, will allow Norwegian to eliminate this extra stop and cruise exclusively within the waters of Hawaii. Under the terms of the bill, Norwegian Cruise Line will be permitted to sail foreign-built ships under a U.S. flag in Hawaii waters.

Opponents to the bill, under pressure from rival cruise lines, required that the bill include a provision that these newly flagged ships will not transport passengers in revenue service to ports in Alaska, the Gulf of Mexico or the Caribbean Sea. In addition, no federal money will be used in this project.

Norwegian plans to finish building overseas two partly built cruise ships destined for Hawaii under American Classic Voyages' failed ship building initiative which was called "Project America," and then sail them exclusively in Hawaii. It also allows the cruise line to re-flag an additional cruise ship (the Norwegian Star) already in operation.

In an additional boon to the Hawaiian economy and tourist industry, the bill requires Norwegian to employ American crews to man the ships. Norwegian has promised that a majority of the hiring will be with Hawaii residents. It is expected that as many as 3000 new jobs will be created for Hawaii residents once all three ships are in operation....."

DO they employ mostly Hawaiians???
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