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Old 11-09-2005, 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by Sportcat:
How were you notified? By NCL, your travel agent? Did you initiate the call?
Are you getting any compensation? Onboard credit?
Yuou can check individual itineraries at the NCL web site.
For the Majesty in the next month, surf to

Then click on the circled i. Here's next week's Majesty itinerary.

Day Event Location Time
Sun CRUISE 12:00 AM
Mon CRUISE 12:00 AM
Fri CRUISE 12:00 AM
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Old 11-11-2005, 07:54 AM
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Dream departing on the 19th from Galveston, TX. I spoke to my travel agent (Travelocity) yesterday, they confirmed with NCL and this is the latest as of November 10, 2005. I thought I'll share it with you all.

They are going to make it to all the ports as stated in the original itinerary (including Cozumel and Cancun) except Roatan. They substituted Roatan with Progresso, Mexico. ( I suspect it is due to the defective engine, they don't want to go as far as Roatan)

Please post if you heard something different.
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Old 11-11-2005, 05:43 PM
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You're half right.
Here's the NCL news release of November 10. 2005.
November 10, 2005 – The recovery and restoration of Cozumel, Mexico after Hurricane Wilma has been swift and successful. As such, Norwegian Cruise Line is pleased to report that Norwegian Dream, Norwegian Sun and Norwegian Majesty will be able to call into Cozumel next week as scheduled. Norwegian Dawn will return to Cozumel on its November 20 sailing as scheduled.
Unfortunately, Cancun is not ready to accept cruise ships yet and as such Norwegian Dream will not be able to call into Cancun until further notice. Norwegian Dream has a technical issue with one of the ship’s engines, which affects the maximum speed of the vessel. This will prevent the ship from making its scheduled call into Roatan; however, NCL is pleased to be able to offer as an alternative to Roatan a call into Progreso, Mexico.
The revised Norwegian Dream’s itinerary is as follows:
Day Port Arrive Depart
11/12 Sat Houston, Texas 4:00pm
11/13 Sun At Sea - - - -
11/14 Mon Progreso, Mexico 7:00 am 4:00pm
11/15 Tue Cozumel, Mexico 10:00am 6:00pm
11/16 Wed Belize City, Belize 8:30am 6:00pm
11/17 Thu At Sea - - - -
11/18 Fri At Sea - - - -
11/19 Sat Houston, Texas 9:00am
Because of the change from Roatan to Progreso, guests will receive a $50 per person onboard credit (maximum $100 per stateroom, including 1 st and 2 nd guest), applicable to all items excluding the Casino and service charges. This credit includes reimbursement for government taxes and fees, if applicable.

Cancun has been dropped, for now. Shucks, a good 25% to 33% of the time the Dream wouldn't have anchored in Cancun anyways, due to bad sea conditions.
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:08 AM
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Here is another version. I heard from a NCL representative today, the itinerary for Norwegian Dream sailing on November 19:

Nov19 sail from Galveston
Nov20 at sea
Nov21 Cozumel
Nov22 Roatan
Nov23 Belize
Nov24 at sea
Nov25 at sea
Nov26 arrive at Galveston
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Old 11-27-2005, 08:05 PM
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My family is booked on the Dream leaving on 12/31. I have not been notified about any change in the itinerary and plan to call my travel agent tomorrow to see if there is a change. I guess I shold be glad that the two ports we were most excited about are still in the picture, but two out of four isn't great odds. But I guess I can understand the shortening of the itinerary because of storm damage more than NCL sailing a ship that needs repairs. What's with that? I've never heard of such a thing. I know we have no choice now but to go, and there are six of us, so it would be a big hit to cancel. Hope we can just make the best of things and have a great time. I'm not telling the rest of my family about this information until I have to!
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:44 PM
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Does anyone know about Dec 10 cruise on the Dream? Expedia is still showing that we visit Cancun...I looked in the News releases on NCL website, but do not see anything there.
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Old 11-29-2005, 09:44 AM
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I sailed the Dream on Nov,19 - Nov,26 itinerary. The ports we called were:

Nov21: Cozumel (using a tender, because the piers are not ready, we hardly got 4 hours on shore)
Nov22: Roatan, Honduras
Nov23: Belize (As always using a tender)

We did not go to Cancun and the port and tax charges were refunded in the amount of $12.98 pp

The ship did a max.speed of 18 knots, since we did not have to go to Cancun, they had enough time to return back to Houston on time. The Ship's crew have been asked to say that the fourth engine has been fixed and there are no more engine problems.

Here is the trick NCL is playing:

If they chose to substitute Progresso with Cancun, they cannot go as far as Roatan because of the faulty engine. Then the passengers are given $50/$100 credit because it is NCL's fault. On the other hand, if they totally skip Cancun and Progresso it is Wilma's fault that they can't go to Cancun and the Ship can sail upto Roatan using the extra time on hand and the Passengers are given a credit of $12.98.- Neat.
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Old 11-29-2005, 09:01 PM
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The Dream is presently going to three of it's original ports, which is exactly what the Sun is doing too.
You do the math, and tell me if it's possible to get to Progresso instead of the still closed Cancun.

1 leg Milage from Houston to Cosumel = 875 miles
2 leg Milage from Cosumel to Roatan = 250 miles
3 leg Milage from Roatan to Belize = `150 miles

4 leg Milage from Belize to Cancun = 275 miles
5 leg Milage from Cancun to Houston = 825 miles

4~leg Milage from Belize to Progreso = 425 miles
5~leg Milage from Progreso to Houston = 675 miles

With 45 hours to do leg 1, the Dream needs to travel at 875/45 = 19.5 knots.
6 hours in Cosumel originally, 5 hours this week.
With 18.5 hours to do leg 2, the Dream needs to travel at 250/18.5 = 13.5 knots.
7.5 hours in Roatan originally, also this week.
With 11 hours to do leg 3, the Dream needs to travel at 150/11 = 13.6 knots.
9 hours in Belize originally, 11 hours this week.

Original schedule using Cancun
With 17 hours to do leg 4, the Dream needs to travel at 275/17 = 16.25 knots.
6 hours in Cancun
With 42 hours to do leg 5, the Dream needs to travel at 825/42 = 19.75 knots

Alternate schedule using Progreso
With 17 hours to do leg~4, the Dream needs to travel at 425/17 = 25 knots. (Note, not even the Sun can do that.)
With a 6 hour stay in Progreso, we have 42 hours to do leg~5, the Dream needs to travel at 675/42 = 16.25 knots.

Progreso is 150 miles farther from Belize than Cancun. At 25 knots, that's an additional 6 hours of travel. At 20 knots, that's an additional 7.5 hours of travel. At 15 knots, that's an additional 10 hours of travel.

To get that extra fourth port of Progreso, NCL would have to cut port time significantly at the other ports to make up the extra 7.5 to 10 hours it takes to get there, or as soon as it ties up, it will have to immediately make weigh to get back into Houston on time.
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