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f-mattox 05-14-2007 11:40 PM

I was just reading some comments on dinner attire in the HAL forum and thought I would throw this out just as an F.Y.I.;

I was pleasantly surprised by the number of tuxedoes and white dinner jackets on the three formal nights on my recent Island Princess cruise. I debated getting one, decided not to, then rather wished I had. Not that I felt out of place or underdressed--I dare say I look pretty good in my charcoal pin stripe--but those that were dressed to the nines (I have never known what that means--I mean I know what it means but I don't know what it really MEANS; know what I mean? Why nines? Why not tens?) Uh, they were into it and really enjoying themselves.

Being a longer cruise with, shall we say more "seasoned" passengers no doubt had a lot to do with it; But it was really nice to see. I don't know what happened to all the guys with muscle shirts and camouflage shorts I saw during the day--the buffet I would guess--but it's encouraging to see that one of the more elegant traditions is still alive.

Know what Webster says about "tuxedo"?
"Semiformal evening clothes for men". Formal must mean tails.

f-mattox 05-14-2007 11:56 PM

Holy smokes!

I just stumbled onto GenCan's thread on the same subject in the Carnival forum. I think I'm in for a rough go!

Chef Ken 05-15-2007 07:34 AM


Originally posted by f-mattox:
(I have never known what that means--I mean I know what it means but I don't know what it really MEANS; know what I mean? Why nines? Why not tens?)
Some sources say it has to do with the 9 yards of fabric required to make a suit. Others say, 9 is the highest single-digit number and thus being perfection. I am not going to go the whole nine yards in my research and I will have to leave it at that.

At any rate it is nice to hear that formal night, still brings out the best in people. Any "leisure suits" in the mix?

penny3333 05-15-2007 07:40 AM

So glad to hear that f-mattox and I'm sure you were well dressed which adds to the ambiance of the dining experience. Also glad to welcome you back from what I hope was a wonderful cruise!! Best wishes!

AlaskaGolden 05-15-2007 08:31 AM


Know what Webster says about "tuxedo"?
"Semi-formal evening clothes for men". Formal must mean tails.
Yes, you are correct:

Traditional, Formal Evening: Black tails are worn with a matching trousers. A white pique wing collar shirt is adorned with a white pique vest and bow tie. Topping off the ensemble is a black top hat, white gloves and a black cane.

Traditional, Semi Formal Evening: A black tuxedo or white dinner jacket and black trousers with any style shirt, vest, cummerbund and tie.

Above from:

I'm beginning to think I'll be under dressed in my black suit, white shirt and black or silver tie on our upcoming cruise! Maybe I'd better order a tux?

f-mattox 05-15-2007 10:34 AM

Todd, don't sweat it; you will not be underdressed. The majority were in dark suits and even a fair number with sport coat or blazer and no tie. I even had dinner with one fellow who had a plain black suit and added a tuxedo shirt and black bow tie; nobody even noticed until he mentioned it. No leisure suits, Ken. We all tossed them years ago. One pair of jeans--but he was completely outfitted with nice western shirt, boots, string tie, hat and coat--a genuine cowboy and he looked great. Guys with 30 inch waists and get away with that.

Don't get me wrong--I'm not advocating formal wear for everyone; just making the observation that those who were dressed up were really enjoying themselves--and getting some great photos too.


AlaskaGolden 05-16-2007 06:40 AM

Yes, I was only kidding about the tux. If I had to wear a tux, I'd buy one since there are other functions on land I attend where a tux and dark suits are worn (kinda like formal night on a cruise!)

But, I'm being very strict about the dress code with my family about the formal nights on our cruise. I'd like to get some pictures of all 6 of dressed up. No sport coats, jeans, flip flops, etc., and the men must wear a dark suit and tie. What other people are wearing won't bother me - they won't be our pictures!

carlg 05-16-2007 06:45 AM

Todd, we use cruises to update our family portrait. I can't imagine myself showing up in a studio dressed in a tux, but on a cruise, it just makes sense. With the backrounds and settings they have anymore, you really have so many options to pick from! And as Rick pointed out, you will not be underdressed in a dark suit.

f-mattox 05-16-2007 10:03 AM

And while you pay a little more for each photo, there is no charge for the sitting and you are under no obligation to purchase anything. On my recent cruise they had 4-5 different backgrouds each formal night--even a black and white option. We found one photographer the first formal night who's work we really liked and kept going back to her; and came home with some real treasures.

goin' cruisin' 05-16-2007 12:26 PM

Just a heads up on the dark suit...try to avoid the black may look like a bunch of floating heads!

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