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Old 11-25-2006, 04:10 PM
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This may be an old question but I just booked a Royal Caribbean cruise for the first time and was surprised to see that when I completed my on-line check in I was asked my racial background and if I was African American or Latino.

Antbody know the reason why? I wonder if this is even legal?
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The US Border and Immigration are the ones asking this question. Since 9/11 Security at the Border has been very strict. They just about want all your information including your address, phone numbers birth dates etc. even how you are getting to the port and leaving the port.

Also the cruiselines might be just compiling data to see what age group and race are sailing for their own benefit. This helps in their sales strategy.
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Old 11-25-2006, 08:11 PM
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Beyond the lawful questions being asked of passengers in order to comply with the various federal statutes, you are entering into a contract with RCCL when you book a cruise. By doing so you agree to provide certain information as a condition of the contract. The cruise line is not discriminating against you. They are not denying you their services on the basis of race. Cruise lines can deny service. For instance, they deny service to otherwise legal adults solely because they are under a certain age. A single adult of 21 cannot book a cruise unless they have someone 25 or older staying in the same cabin.
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Old 11-25-2006, 09:15 PM
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For instance, they deny service to otherwise legal adults solely because they are under a certain age. A single adult of 21 cannot book a cruise unless they have someone 25 or older staying in the same cabin.
I think that is totally different than asking what race you are.

I don't recall any forms asking what race I am when going on a cruise or even crossing the border.
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It doesn't make any difference to be what question are asked on the form. Strange they don't ask what religion you are. It seems to me the problem isn't what race you may be, but your faith. At least if it's security profiling. We all can admit it's the extreme radical *****'s that have changed our world of travel. Racial profiling isn't what we are seeing on the form we are obligated to fill out. They may be conducting some kind of survey. At least that's my opinion.

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I agree with Sonny. It for sure was not racial profiling based on those questions for security reasons. Plus if anyone did any profiling it would be Immigration.

It certainly was not for discrimination, or they would have asked for your available credit, and what color your money is.

Conclusion: A survey for marketing purposes, as was stated previously.

I have seen those questions many times on applications etc. But I have never seen with just the 2 options before. Are there any Asians, European Americans, or Native Americans, on this cruise?

The only color they care about is Green.

And yes, it is legal to ask these questions. But, not for purposes of discrimination. Notice it was an after booking question.
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Old 11-26-2006, 05:51 AM
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Well the thing that gets me with this question is it always seems some folks are just looking to cause issues with something. The Cruise Industry "Hires and Promotes the largest per capita, people, from almost every ethnic area in the world and they do it without anyone telling them that they have to meet some percentage ratio. They simply do it to obtain the best customer relation people that they can. They also advertise in almost every country in the world to every "person" that they can get on a cruise and its so that they can make money on us all. The reason they ask certain questions on their forms is so that they comply with the Regulation that the Government tells them. Also, So they know where to funnel their advertising dollars, rubels, Euro's, Pounds, Lira's, etc. I can assure you that the modern cruise industry does not do any racial profiling. If you have the money they will sell you a cruise and give you the same treatment as they give to me but if you cruise alot then just as any other company they will give you perks such as special rates for balconies etc (Crown & Anchor).
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Everybody "profiles" to a certain extent-when you first see or meet someone, everyone gets an immediate "first" impression-right or wrong, that's your first meeting. Everyone does it to a large or small extent-you can't help it. You may be proved wrong, or not. However, if you have EVER been on a cruise, viewing the diversity of the ship's "staff" will convince you that cruise lines do not discriminate. As an aside, most cruise lines are "Ship's Registery" somewhere other than the U.S.A, and it's many "it's all about me and my concerns" people. And I don't care of this offends anyone-I can tend to be one of those people too.
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In Canada the only place they can ask about race is on the census.
No one else can ask race or age for anything.
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IMHO profiling is when a negative or unpleasant experience happens as a result of your "race", "creed", "religion", "gender" etc. I fail to see where anything unpleasant or negative has happened simply by asking the question.
 
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